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DOTA2什么体系可以克制炸弹人？DOTA2强势英雄炸弹人（图）
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什么体系可以克制炸弹人，我只能说，现在没有任何体系可以克制炸弹人。这个问题就算交给现在的职业战队，他们都没有准确的答案，不然也不会出现，TI5当Ehome逼出EG的炸弹人大招后，中国战队在后面对抗EG时，出现全部一ban炸弹的场景。要是有体系可以克制没准TI5的冠军就不是EG了。
回答此问题的是：
什么体系可以克制炸弹人，我只能说，现在没有任何体系可以克制炸弹人。这个问题就算交给现在的职业战队，他们都没有准确的答案，不然也不会出现，TI5当Ehome逼出EG的炸弹人大招后，中国战队在后面对抗EG时，出现全部一ban炸弹的场景。要是有体系可以克制没准TI5的冠军就不是EG了。
炸弹人在现在的版本中，是非常imba的存在，就连2000哥自己都投票建议冰蛙删掉这个英雄，原因就是现在的炸弹人太影响游戏平衡了。到底是什么原因导致炸弹人出现这样的情况呢？
1.对线十分强势
很多玩家可能会不理解炸弹人为什么会对线强势，如果在路人局中碰到过会玩的炸弹人，自己使用的又是近战英雄和他对线，会发现对线炸弹人十分头疼，补刀会被炸弹正面埋雷影响，而且一不注意可能会被炸弹人的自爆带走，现在很多炸弹人对线会优先点自爆，就是为了可以完成单杀，而且炸弹人自爆后，复活会很快，还能吃到线上的经验。当然有的玩家会说，辅助英雄可以保护carry。辅助确实可以保护carry对线炸弹人，但是能做的却不多，想要击杀炸弹人会十分困难，首先炸弹人可以自爆，其次不知道炸弹人埋雷的位置，辅助的位置被限制，只敢走线上，这样很难先手到炸弹人。如果炸弹发现对线的人太过强势，炸弹人还可以选择去埋雷，主动权完全在炸弹人这边。炸弹人在对线时还有一点很关键，就是可以保护队友无解肥，我们都知道海民和炸弹人的组合，这个组合并不是简单的海民带炸弹人滚，然后自爆杀人这么简单。这个组合真正的意义是炸弹人可以保证海民的无解发育，对手不能正常的对线。当海民发育好后，炸弹人可以直接入侵对手的野区，在对手野区埋雷，对手线上发育不好，想要利用野区发育也会有很大的危险，想想都会觉得这个游戏太难了。
2.破坏对手的节奏
现在前期的节奏基本上都是辅助英雄来带，但是当对手有炸弹人的时候，游走会变得非常困难，因为不知道哪里会有雷，前期辅助不敢开雾gank，因为要是被炸死了，损失会非常大。带有召唤物技能的英雄还能稍微克制一下，但是炸弹人埋雷会十分灵活，主动权还是在炸弹人这边。当炸弹人拥有大招后，更是辅助的噩梦，因为需要花费经济买真眼排雷，很容易导致辅助经济崩盘。
3.万恶的守高地能力
这个版本炸弹人出到A杖后，雷区标识会让炸弹人的技能不被宝石这种真视道具发现，可以说这个技能的出现，让想上拥有A杖炸弹人高地的玩家，比登天还要难。上不去高地游戏的时间就会增加，有炸弹人的路人局很容易变成膀胱局。本来40-50分钟就能结束的游戏，有了炸弹人变成1个小时以上，要是前期有优势更是头疼，dota2直接变成了扫雷2，真是把玩家做宝搞。
4.排雷金钱零收益
把炸弹人的雷排了我们可以得到什么，只有10几点可怜的经验，一分钱都得不到有木有。难怪puppey会建议下个版本炸弹人的雷要有金钱收益，不然真是没法玩。炸弹哥也说炸弹人的大雷排一个可以得到100的收益，可是小雷应该是多少，40还是60。以后是不是可以带个宝石成为排雷大队长，排一波雷和打组野怪收益一样，听上去很不错哦，看你炸弹人还敢到处埋雷么！
克制炸弹人的英雄还有一些，但是克制炸弹人的体系现在还没有出现，不然国服天梯碰到炸弹人也不会直接举报。反倒是炸弹人可以破坏掉各种体系。路人还好一些，职业比赛遇到炸弹人真是直接爆炸，像2000哥那种出跳刀跑你脸上埋雷的炸弹，配合队友的冲脸英雄，完全想不到可以用什么体系克制他。9神举办的Ftd选拔赛，也是禁止使用炸弹人这个英雄，因为有炸弹人的dota2和没有炸弹人的dota2完全是两个游戏。谁让炸弹人现在就是这么艺术的存在，boom~~
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责任编辑：李晗It is a glorious conclusion to an amazing tournament in which we've witnessed the fall of old champions and the rise of brand new shining stars. Dota 2 just got better than ever before.
在TI5这场群雄逐鹿中，我们见证了传说走下神坛，新皇黄袍加身。这足够让我们相信，DOTA2的未来会越走越远。
CDEC：老鹿，猴子，冰龙，白牛，痛苦女王
EG：飞机，发条，冰女，蓝猫，天怒法师
The grand finals started with a speedy draft, CDEC not wanting to take their chances with a Techies chose to first ban them. Evil Geniuses got the chance to play their first Gyrocopter in the main event and surprised their opponents with a Skywrath Mage last pick to shut down the Chinese Winter Wyvern.
总决赛如同帷幕一般展开，CDEC不想让对方拿到炸弹人，选择禁用此英雄。EG则率先放战术，首拿核心飞机。最后，令CDEC没想到的是，对方最后一选居然是天怒法师，此举针对中国队的冰龙。
The actual game began in a disastrous way for Suma1L who got ganked three times in row in the first few minutes, CDEC doing what a lot of other teams have been doing, focusing to delay him as much as possible but meanwhile Fear and the supports were left to free farm and outlevel their opponents.
开局没多久，中路Sumail控制的蓝猫开始血崩&&他在对线期被GANK了三次， CDEC做了很多其他队伍也在做的事情&&尽量阻碍中路的发育，但所付出的代价便是，对方的飞机和辅助刷的飞起，等级高于对面。
And the wonder - child of DotA 2 managed once again to pull out an incredible recovery (same way he did at DAC) by storming really fast the jungle to finish the fastest Orchid from the tournament.
奇迹出现了&&DOTA2之子（Sumail）再次展现出他的打钱天赋（他在亚洲邀请赛也是这样），非常快的出一件大件&&紫苑。
CDEC continued to keep up their super aggressive playstyle but Fear beat them at their own game being one step ahead, anticipating their intentions he landed his Call Dawns perfectly three team fights in a row to secure three-four kills for his team.
CDEC继续采取线上强压的战略，但飞机抢先一步，在三次团战中放出完美大，击中所有敌方英雄，为团队拿到3至4个人头。
The Skyrwrath last pick put CDEC in the impossibility to use the Winter Wyvern as Aui was only focusing her with his silence and nukes which enabled EG to take a really early 10k experience and gold lead. A deficit that CDEC weren't able to recover and that lost them the first game in 34 minutes.
EG最后选的天怒法师成功压制住了对面的冰龙，团战中总是沉默冰龙，并且天怒法师打出了很好的节奏&&至少领先了CDEC一万的经验，金钱也保持着领先。
最后CDEC经济开始崩盘，最终他们在34分钟后打出了GG。
CDEC：老鹿，巨牙海民，维萨吉（死灵飞龙），痛苦女王，蜘蛛
EG：飞机，发条，冰女，冰龙，风行者
The first two picks and bans went identical but as the draft continues CDEC focused Suma1L with their bans. EG's last pick was Windranger for Suma1L but CDEC surprised the boys in blue with a unaccounted for Broodmother.
CDEC outplayed and outmaneuvered Evil Geniuses with the way they laned their heroes, sending Brood mid lane while what EG read as a support Leshrac turned to be a core pick for Shiki. EG were in big trouble right from the get go and although they did their best to recover after a really bad laning stage they ended up losing the game two to Brood's split push power combined with extremely aggressive plays from the entire CDEC lineup.
第二场开局与第一场相差不大，不过CDEC针对Sumail 禁用了蓝猫这个英雄。 EG最后拿的是风行者供Sumail使用，不过CDEC亮出了底牌，最后拿出了育母蜘蛛，此举全场哗然。
CDEC与EG的阵容可谓针尖对麦芒，天辉方蜘蛛走中，而EG从此举便看破CDEC的套路&&老鹿看似作为辅助，实则为第二核心。比赛一开始EG陷入被动，尽管EG拼尽全力，但仍被扳平比分。蜘蛛的推塔和极限压制为了CDEC拿到了一分。
Game Three:
CDEC：老鹿，维萨吉，莱恩，兔子，小鱼人
EG：发条，飞机，火猫，尸王，天怒
The third game of the grand finals could be described as the best game of the entire International and it is definitely a must to watch one. EG played for the third time of the evening Gyrocopter while CDEC continued to open the bans with Techies. Suma1L received an Ember Spirit to play with and he impressed pushing the hero to its limits.
Although EG were the ones who won the laning phase CDEC forced the issue from the early game, grouping as five to take the tier one mid tower from EG. Fear showed Agressif he can rotate and play the same aggressive carry as him and used his teleports almost on cd to ensure multiple teamfights for his team.
CDEC never stopped to pressure EG even though they were a bit behind sometimes and as a result, the graphs were completely even 57 minutes into the game.
The turning point happened at the 55 minute mark when Suma1l nullified CDEC's initiation power with a Linken's Sphere. EG turned the tables on the Chinese, wiped them and took the first tier three tower.
It all came down to one single decisive teamfight and that one was better executed by Evil Geniuses who took the lead of the series after an insane one hour long game there.
第三场比赛被说成TI系列赛中最精彩的一场，非常值得一看。EG连续三场都用了飞机，而CDEC继续禁用炸弹人。 这场比赛Sumail使用火猫，并完美诠释了这个英雄的特点。
尽管EG取得小团战的胜利，迫使CDEC前期不断吃紧，不过CDEC集结所有人拿下了中路一塔。选手Fear开启了风骚走位模式，各种放风筝，各种TP参团。
在长达57分钟的游戏结束前，CDEC一直都在给EG压力，尽管那时他们仍然落后。
转折点出现在55分钟，Sumail的林肯法球挡下了一波伤害后，开始反攻中国队，团灭他们并破一路外塔。
最后，EG打赢了全场决定性的，也是最后一波团战，从而取得胜利，拿到赛点。
（译者注：拿到赛点的EG正在商讨战术）
CDEC：发条，火女，冰龙，猴子，龙骑
EG：飞机，小娜迦，蓝猫，牛少，冰魂
The key moment of the final was the final fight in the Roshan Pit where CDEC felt comfortable enough to adventure in after they ganked Suma1L's Storm Spirit. They did not expect EG to contest the Aegis but the boys in blue pulled off the knock-out combo Echoslam into AA's ultimate and instantly killed four enemy heroes. And that marked the begining of the end for CDEC.
最后一场，关键点出现CDEC打Roshan的时候，当时CDEC带走Sumail的蓝猫时，决定在Roshan处铤而走险。在全场惊呼声中，CDEC在没有视野的情况下被牛少完美大加冰魂完美大，瞬间带走四人。那波失误后，标志着CDEC与冠军无缘。
Prize pool distribution:
1st - Evil Geniuses - $6,616,014
2nd - CDEC Gaming - $2,848,562
3rd - LGD Gaming - $2,205,338
4th - Vici Gaming - $1,562,114
奖金获得排名
第一 EG 600多万美金
第二 CDEC 280多万
第三 老干爹 220多万
第四 VG 150多万
评论翻译：
darkmonster59 1 day, 8 hours ago
They deserved it , amazing plays, amazing team with an amazing captain. PPD one of the best if not the BEST drafter of all times.
这是他们努力的结果，难以置信的操作，难以置信的队伍，难以置信的冠军。 PPD如果不是最厉害的队长，那就是最厉害的队长之一
tonicjr 1 day, 8 hours ago
PPD should be the most sought out player right now. Genius Drafter can counter any drafter in the world
PPD如今已是最有价值的选手。他能与世界上任何队长打的有来有回。
GT-R 1 day, 8 hours ago
Yup they should just Admit that PPD is the Best Drafter in Dota2 even Puppey and S4 copy PPD's draft
是的，他们应该承认DOTA2里，PPD是最好的队长，甚至Puppey和S4都在模仿PPD的禁选英雄。
译者注：DOTA里的队长拥有选人权和BAN人权
Tjernobylbarnet 1 day, 8 hours ago
Definitely the best Dota team right, and they've been up there ever since their formation early last year.
毫无疑问，EG是最好的DOTA战队，他们本该在TI4就能问鼎
tonicjr 1 day, 8 hours ago
They were strong since Summit1, with very different line up. But PPD was the core of the team, that is why they are so strong.
S1后l他们才变强，阵容变化多端。但PPD是这支战队的核心，这就是他们依然为一线强队的根本所在
goxtortel 1 day, 8 hours ago
are the chinese fanboys already hiding in their caves? ahahaha! grats to EG!
中国信仰粉在做缩头乌龟？哈哈哈，EG万岁
tonicjr 1 day, 8 hours ago
I am chinese but i am not hiding because i amire EG and ppd
我就是中国信仰粉，但我没有躲躲闪闪。只因我对EG和PPD服气。
goxtortel 1 day, 8 hours ago
yea dude youre a fan of good dota. but check the previous cdec/lgd articles. too many people spoke early saying western doto shit doto and the like. a full comment page with like 70-80% red flags posting shit cussing eg and other western teams. this feeling of vindication..so good. cdec put up a great fight tho. the next major tourney, it will really be interesting to follow them.
好啊，哥们。你是一位DOTA良心粉。但请你看看以前CDEC或者LGD文章，有太多中国人说欧洲DOTA菜的抠脚之类的。一页评论中大概有70%&&80%的带有中国红色国旗的人在喷EG和其他欧洲队。你的发言让我感觉舒心了一些。CDEC同样打得很精彩，下次，我相信二者的对决会更有趣。
Frost1990 1 day, 7 hours ago
couldnt agree more all the teams were great in this tournament best ti so far based purely on the amount of quality games.... but the last cdec and lgd posts there were pages and pages of just shit talking western teams its nice to see they are all hiding now. DAC-EG ESL-Secret TI5-EG enough said really but awesome tournament great games from all teams. was a pleasure to watch
、TI5所有的参赛队伍都很棒，我非常同意这一观点，这是我见过质量最好的比赛&&但是CDEC和LGD的水军一页接着一页的喷欧洲战队，如今他们都躲起来，喜闻乐见。DAC的冠军EG,ESL的冠军Secret，这些伟大的战队共同创造了一场经典的赛事，非常感谢他们为我带来一场视觉盛宴。
.HallelujahChance- 1 day, 4 hours ago
GGnet forum has always been toxic. Western fanboys, Eastern fanboys, they're all the same. Any hint of success from one side, and you will see countless bragging threads being made left and right. Civilized discussion are quick to be shut down by retarded fanboys from either side,and the mods do nothing about it&
GGDOTA论坛总带有一些毒性。欧洲DOTA粉丝，亚洲DOTA粉，我们都一样，属于信仰粉。只要任何一边开始出现胜利的曙光，你就能看见数不清的豪言壮语，从而另一方开始反讽相讥，接着评论便不能看了。
AHMYOLO 1 day, 8 hours ago
your just one exception most chinese think they are the gods of dota just check the chats here http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/news/32109-the-chinese-show-down-vg-faces-ehome
im looking for them not you
@tonicjr 你是一位很特殊的中国人。因为大部分中国人都认为他们在DOTA里是无所不能的上帝，请点击这个网址（EHOME那篇），在评论里我没有看到你
tonicjr 1 day, 8 hours ago
All I see is &pinoy vs russian&. China vs West is only mild in that thread
我所见的都是&菲佣大战毛子&，中国VS欧洲这种说法在那些跟帖里算是好的了
029 17 hours, 4 minutes ago
nice provocation, girl ! Irani will win next TI!
拉的一手好嘲讽，美妞！伊朗人会夺得下一届TI冠军
persad 1 day, 7 hours ago
I'm really happy for the old man fear. and i think its the time for him to retire
看到老选手fear我很开心，并且我认为他在此时退役最好不过
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　　8月8日凌晨2点，虎牙直播平台将为大家带来第五届Dota2国际邀请赛的三场比赛，周宝龙OB海鲜团、同胞阿川、风追忆将一起为大家带来精彩的赛事解说!
　　第一场：LGD vs
VP：LGD从整体实力和比赛状态来说可以说在中国军团中首屈一指，但是在前天的比赛中被小老弟CDEC打落到败者组，这口气很难咽下。战斗民族VP虽然干掉了Secret，但是在比赛中也透露出很多问题，以稳健著称的LGD要拿下这场比赛应该不成问题。
　　第二场：CDEC vs
EG，CDEC在本届Ti5堪称正在上演凯泽斯劳滕神话，从一开始就不被看好的情况下一路从中国区预选赛亚军打入外卡赛，凭借霸气哥和maybe的大秀拿到小组第一，并以初生牛犊不怕虎的气势掀翻了同门师兄LGD进入到胜者组决赛，已锁定前3;EG是唯一一支在本届Ti5
2:0完胜过CDEC的比赛，拥有天才少年Fear和2000哥的EG在本届比赛中一路高歌猛进，战术套路非常丰富，令人防不胜防。预测：美帝亡我中华之心不死，EG只赢一手炸弹人。
　　第三场：败者组第四轮，VG vs
LGD和VP的胜者。按照之前的预测LGD应该不难击败VP，这场中国队内战双方有过无数次交手，互相知根知底，从整体实力上来讲也是各有千秋，LGD在下面8和姚日天的带领下整体表现相对比较稳定，VG则要看太子FY和表弟三冰的单骑救主能力，更要看豪娘和包子的余额支付是否充足。
　　LongDD直播间：/longdd?from=TI5
　　zhoU直播间： /zhou?from=TI5
　　ZippO宝哥直播间：/zippo?from=TI5
　　屠夫阿川直播间：/achuan?from=TI5
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